whose in charge round here?

[mothandrust]

this site has been created by someone with way too much time on their hands

but you have done a truly wonderful job guys

thank you





but maybe you should think about going out and getting a proper job, can you not see Capitalism breaking under the weight of its excess?

the evokation does indeed seem to be an excellent place to begin - but let us also say, the entire task seems insurmountable. this site will challenge all your perspectives, it will attract inquiring minds from across the word and sooner or later, as word travels, we will be innundated by religious sects and groups, all with their blind readings of their holy books - passed down by some figure of authority - all with predefined perspectives. perhaps by that time it will have fulfilled its purpose - who can say?


however, although perhaps it is impertinent, if you want some light(er) relief when it seems like your head is about to explode, as you feel your way of thinking, conceptualising challenged from every direction. i believe the kid's version, horribly simplified, encapsulated, sits at mothnrust.tk
but of course, i could be wrong

big hugs, pleased to be here,

p.s. come on guys, lets get some ideas flowing - do you not know the fantastic opportunity we have been offered. it's like finding a key to the most fantastic treasure - where the owners are not at home - a treasure indeed for the world, but how will it be used? Dave do you have some special knowledge you'd like to impart, or should i PM you?

much love,

j

[mothandrust]

ah, yes... afraid i get a little confused with the written word
the thought of then having to tie it to numbers makes my temples pound

[plot]

Spot on mothandrust. Is this sight about a shift in consciousness?
Why should anyone be in charge?

[Ma'at-Kheru]

If I were you, I wouldn't be looking for answers divulged by 'those in charge'.

[plot]

Hi all
As promised, some information about how the site has come to be.

The answer to the question, who are we getting into bed with? Is, no-one, the site is yours. It is speaking to you. In the end it is your journey. No-one is in charge of this site. It is not a cult or occult nor is it an experiment of any kind. There is no conspiracy. It is here for the benefit of all who wish to pursue it. The forum has been added as an aid to the journey.

Go to index 5, Isis1 you will see, if you haven’t already, the namuh who is the cipher by which this site has manifest (David would not consider taking credit for this).

I have known David for some years and have been the means by which he has received some of the books necessary to the “Great Work” as he refers to it. Like you I am working my way through the information on the site and am now grateful of the forum for the assistance I hope it will bring. To speak to David of the Great Work, is like dipping into the index. I get a wonderful sense of what is being said, but I am unable to fully comprehend. I feel the veil.

As I have previously stated, it is our journey to remove the veil, no-one can show us. Not even David. I feel strongly that a shift in consciousness is needed and the Great Work is showing us this, but we as yet don’t see.

David will not be contributing to the forum, he is unable to assist in this way and is compelled to continue with the Great work.

I hope this clears up any queries or concerns anyone may have and I look forward to the journey ahead.

[mechanical320god]

As I have previously stated, it is our journey to remove the veil, no-one can show us. Not even David. I feel strongly that a shift in consciousness is needed and the Great Work is showing us this, but we as yet don’t see.

You might want to invest in the esoteric Zen in which there is no distinction between opposites, things merely are as they could not exist or be comprehended without the other, so all things are one. True understanding comes from removing oneself, removing you, removing truth, removing the journey itself.

THERE IS NO JOURNEY - IT IS MERELY ANOTHER PHYSICAL ATTACHMENT TO A REALITY

To escape the veil one must have no destination or distinction, but to merely see beyond. The shift must happen as ONE because in the end as we are all ONE and ONE cannot function if its parts are scattered and tethered to reality.

[plot]

Well, again thankyou. What is the esoteric zen? is it a book?

[mechanical320god]

Well, again thankyou. What is the esoteric zen? is it a book?

Zen is a philosophic belief system, often perverted into a religion. You may need to search darker libraries for older texts if you want to find a connection to the Work. Zen buddhism believes in change as the only constance, and that stagnation is evil. However it also believes in almost entire nonintervention in reality.

[heretic-anchorite]

Well, again thankyou. What is the esoteric zen? is it a book?

Zen is a philosophic belief system, often perverted into a religion. You may need to search darker libraries for older texts if you want to find a connection to the Work. Zen buddhism believes in change as the only constance, and that stagnation is evil. However it also believes in almost entire nonintervention in reality.

I've found reading into Gnosticism, Jung, Taoism and 19th century German philosophers like Schopenhauer, and Kant to be useful.

Just remember, a relative absolute is is a contradiction in itself, read these not to "learn" them, but "unlearn" undo the work of the demiurgos slave-master, for the best way to keep a slave is to fool him into believing your enslavement is freedom.

[heretic-anchorite]

the best way to keep a slave is to fool him into believing your enslavement is freedom.

Always remember, all is a true reflection of ones own self; in truth, withdraw to the fulcrum of the balance.

All may be a reflection of the ultimate truth, the divine, of which we originate, however, the image is refracted and refracted to the point where it is wholesomely different, to the point where it is empty.

Compound with the Demiurgos, or the creator, who imagines himself to be absolute uses our own state of spiritual sleep to his advantage, he knows we will eventually see our enslavement, and limitation through him, so he tries to trick us into thinking we are free by him, when he are not.

The fulcrum of balance is above the world, above the confined reality.

[heretic-anchorite]

Withdraw to the balance of one's mind, one's body and one's soul; within the balance of this triad will one find one's own true self.

Remember, each aspect must be as one...

(((((((O
(((((((X
((((((3+3)
(3+3) + (3+3)
(((((((O

But one must also withdraw to no mind, no body, withdraw to the infinity, finding one is only half

between one and nothing is infinity, the great infinity is the true god.

Have you read into Gnosticism at all?

[W_Hodgson]

But isn't holding a view of both mind, and no mind, body, and no body, soul, and no soul, by its very nature dualistic, and hence at opposition to oneness?

[heretic-anchorite]

W_Hodgson wrote:
> But isn't holding a view of both mind, and no mind, body, and no body,
> soul, and no soul, by its very nature dualistic, and hence at opposition to
> oneness?

to be both, yet neither at the same time...

[illuminati4life]

ye ye look kidz e = mc 2 proves your stuff wrong ! so owned !

[zoeyku]

I wouldn't be looking for answers divulged by 'those in charge'.