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On the subject of Tables.

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In the previous topic of discussion, (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13697) I mentioned creating a program to automatically generate the tables found withing this A-Maze-Ing website, however when communicating with the programming discord I am a part of, the general consensus revolves around the question of how the tables are created to begin with, how they are formatted, and the meanings behind the tables so prevalent in this site, etc.

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I also feel as though creating a topic here to describe such explanations of these tables would be of great benefit to new members of the site who are also confused on the subject, and a place to direct them when they have questions concerning the tables.

I am attempting to figure out how to explain it myself but the logic behind some of the computations are still a mystery to me. For instance, in the table provided below, I am still a bit confused about how "40" was calculated on the first line. (Though I understand that M(4) I(9) N(5) D(4) = 22)
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(Edit: After taking a second, I realized I forgot to incorporate the original number to letter conversions of 13+9+14+4)

I post the topic here in the hopes of getting the input and explanations of various members who might be familiar with the subject, such as Hope, or Redbeck so as not to burden David, who is already hard at work on his own tasks.
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However I still feel as though some of the more complex tables could use a bit of information of how they are to be formatted such as this one below that at first glance seems a bit jumbled. (I guess the question I am asking here is why these specific letters? I understand the basic format of taking the lowest base value to the highest base value as seen on column 9) The 4th column is just plain confusing to me, the first value is 8, whereas the second value of "S" is 11. Upon first inspection, it appears inconsistent.
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Dear Koguntetsu,
Regarding your query as to the value of the letters in the word ‘MIND’ and your clarification request “I am still a bit confused about how ‘22’ was calculated in the 1st line” Redbeck

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To Koguntetsu ……..From David Denison

“Please let Koguntetsu know that three numerical values are shown for each letter:
A = 1 to Z = 26. From A to I are expressed as single digits. 1234667989 are single numbers then J = 10 K = 11 L = 12 and so on up to Z = 26. Therefore MIND = 13-9-14-40 = 40.

The double digit numbers from J onwards are then expressed as single numbers as follows:
MIND = M = 13 1+3 = 4 I =9 N = 14 1+4 =5 D = 4 MIND = 4+9+5+4 = 22 2+2 = 4
Each word therefore expresses three readings. Azin ADD TO REDUCE. REDUCE TO DEDUCE. And finally the single digit = its ESSENCE OF NUMBER!

MIND = 40-22-4 each word therefore reduces to its root number. And the method for doing so can be easily shown. See the big Alphabet tables so frequently displayed through the site.

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"DEAR REDBECK I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU DRAWING THIS INFORMATION TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR FRIEND KOGUNTETSU, AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.

THAT S AS IN ISIS FOR EXAMPLE, HAS THE INITIAL PLACEMENT VALUE IN THE ENGLISH ALPHABET OF 19.

S=19 1+9=10 ADD TO REDUCE
S=10 REDUCE TO DEDUCE
S=1 ESSENCE OF NUMBER
THIS METHOD IS FOLLOWED WITH RESPECT OF ANY TWO DIGIT NUMBER
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.
AZIN
12345678912345678912345678

THE TABLES USED IN THIS WAY ARE GENERALLY SHOWN CHANGING IN STAGES TO THE POINT WHEREIN THE NORMAL WORD LETTER ORDER IS REMOVED ALTOGETHER.
SPACES BETWEEN WORDS IGNORED AND THE LETTER NUMBERED SYMBOLS ARE RE-ARRANGED IN NUMERICAL ORDER.
FOR EXAMPLE
THE FAMILY.

THE 20-8-5
FAMILY= 6-1-13-9-12-25
THERE ARE NINE LETTERS IN THOSE TWO WORDS.

THEFAMILY=285614937
THESE 9 LETTERED NUMBERS RESOLVE INTO THE NUMERICAL ORDER 123456789.
CONDENSING INTO 9

HERE IS ANOTHER 9 LETTERED EXAMPLE

GOD WITH US=7-15-4......23-9-20-8.....21-19.
GOD WITH US=7-6-4......5-9-2-8.....3-1.
AGAIN THIS COMMON BIBLICAL PHRASE REARRANGED NUMERICALLY, DEVOID OF SPACING
TRANSPOSES INTO
STUDWOGHI = 123456789 = 45 4+5 = 9

WHAT ALL THIS MEANS IF ANYTHING IS FOR THE READER TO DECIDE.
AND IF MISTAKES ARE FOUND IN THE TABLES CORRECT THEM.

FOLLOWERS OF THE PATH OF PTAH, SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND.
FRATERNAL GREETINGS AND ALL GOOD WISHES TO THEE AND THINE FROM ME AND MINE.
DAVE DENISON."

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by Koguntetsu » 20 Mar 2019 00:56
However I still feel as though some of the more complex tables could use a bit of information of how they are to be formatted such as this one below that at first glance seems a bit jumbled. (I guess the question I am asking here is why these specific letters? I understand the basic format of taking the lowest base value to the highest base value as seen on column 9) The 4th column is just plain confusing to me, the first value is 8, whereas the second value of "S" is 11. Upon first inspection, it appears inconsistent."

http://www.973-eht-namuh-973.com/Alchemy/PHYSICS%20.htm

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NOTE this is the first part of a work in progress reply post and there are now extension posts with additional material from David Denison uploaded throughout today. Redbeck

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"Dear Koguntetsu, Regarding your query.........DEAR REDBECK I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU DRAWING THIS INFORMATION TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR FRIEND KOGUNTETSU, AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.
NOTE this is the SECOND part of a work in progress reply post and an extension post that I have added to with material from David Denison throughout today. Redbeck

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"Dear Koguntetsu, Regarding your query.........DEAR REDBECK I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU DRAWING THIS INFORMATION TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR FRIEND KOGUNTETSU, AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.
NOTE this is the THIRD part of a work in progress reply post an extension post that I will be adding to with material from David Denison throughout today. Redbeck

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"Dear Koguntetsu, Regarding your query.........DEAR REDBECK I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU DRAWING THIS INFORMATION TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR FRIEND KOGUNTETSU, AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.
NOTE this magic triangle is the FINAL part of a work in progress reply post and extension posts that I have been adding to with material from David Denison throughout today. Redbeck
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Like the rising sun breaking through the morning fog, all things start to become clear. I extend my deepest gratitude to David Denison, and to Redbeck for distributing his message to the world.
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This Message from David Denison is relevant to two posts and so it will appear in both

“The tables, originally when I first started unraveling the written work, were created in a very simple way on a Claris set up. AAs the vision opened up, various ways of presenting these keys to the knowing of were gifted. The style changed when Wardell’s White Rabbit presented the work with copies of Dreamweaver software. Presently we are using the CS3 version of Dreamweaver purchased as a licence transfer off the internet. It has one or two faltering parts, but I have been able to do what I need to do. Computer wise I can do what I can do and not a lot more. A top end version of Dreamweaver would blind me with science. Knowing how the tables are evoked may help our fellow travellers with their sacred task, the creation of our magical means to an end.” DD
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