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Thou shall not worship false idols nor put any image before God.
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Why follow doctrine when we are given The Word, and it is sufficient?
Clearly your orthodoxy does not respect The Word of God;
therefore you must attend a synagogue of Satan.
What house of worship honors but the Father?
That is no house for my God, the Father.
And it is written in the Law of Moses
a commandment set by God:
"There is no God before me,
so worship not false idols
or images, but worship
none other than Me,
for I am the God
of your fathers
and the God
of Abraham
of Israel
of David
and of
Jesus
The Nazarene, King of the Jews."
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Live free without breaking a commandment.

Upholding the commandments is free life.
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Beware wrote: 02 Nov 2021 20:15 Thou shall not worship false idols nor put any image before God.
Theres a pretty clear distinction between idolatry and iconography
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Definition of iconography
1: the traditional or conventional images or symbols associated with a subject and especially a religious or legendary subject
2: pictorial material relating to or illustrating a subject
3: the imagery or symbolism of a work of art, an artist, or a body of art

Helps you not one bit to use another word,
for our worship should be reserved for God the Father alone.
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Beware wrote: 02 Nov 2021 22:20 Definition of iconography
1: the traditional or conventional images or symbols associated with a subject and especially a religious or legendary subject
2: pictorial material relating to or illustrating a subject
3: the imagery or symbolism of a work of art, an artist, or a body of art

Helps you not one bit to use another word,
for our worship should be reserved for God the Father alone.
Uhuh. So, a portrait of Queen Victoria is an idol then, right?
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Nazheek wrote: 02 Nov 2021 23:59 Uhuh. So, a portrait of Queen Victoria is an idol then, right?
Madonna is an idol. Kanye West is an icon.

Not one of these people is deserving of worship.

So then, beware where your time is spent and whom you hold high.

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If you’re ever to use symbology iconography idolization, it’s a double edged sword. Sure it’s useful to remember the cross but if you do that you forget why he died easily.

But just like you may remember your family or a loved ones face and smile, and you do this for a good reason, you should equally remember the Creator beyond those images and symbols and how the All was always there for you even when your family and idols fell

You shouldn’t have an imagine or an idol before the Lord or even need it to remember, once you do know Why though there’s no harm in it lest you risk actually forgetting but that is simply the everyday human condition.

This is why magicians are so obsessed with their maths and symbols and yeah there’s divine structure and geometry in everything but that’s sorta like worshipping the pyramid and not the architect the point is to enjoy both, even if disturbingly enough, that architect designed your prison and eden and wasn’t always aware of what truly can dwell in its own creation, whether it be evil good or both
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How could the architect of a pyramid be too mad if you only remember his work and not him, tbh I sense a bittersweet feeling of unappreciation of my children, now that should resonate with anyone who has ever created anything ever consciously, so does it?

If you can’t sense that perhaps you are too indoctrinated in words symbols etc yadda yadda but if you can maybe that means you can hear our creator even on his creation which was his point
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BeN1 wrote: 03 Nov 2021 15:17 man, I just think,
if the Almighty not want me to honor Maria,
maybe he should've not impregnated her with the savior, idk that all just doesn't make any sense to me srsly,

thank you Nazheek

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That’s a wonderful point, this rhetoric is the very foundation of the dictation of division. I think what the man opposing idolization is saying is that all those ppl are/were/will always be guided by that same message, we should worship the message and not the receiver always, yet those who receive it very receptively tend to have advantages, and those advantages tend to be seen by mortal men first rather than the message not to call you in any way a mortal ben, if you truly were your rhetoric wouldn’t be that strong.

Images just get in the way tbh, but so do all these words, I guess that’s why the true message and vision is beyond sensory parables and even beyond the Creator of this world, however how could we not respect the family that is Holy, what he is asking of us is to respect the Why before anything and we do this always even without knowing it, and becoming conscious of the Why of anything and Family is the divine message as much as it can be expressed in simple words and images and these words and images help remind/serve to fuel the art of it All, yet we must respect the Singular Unity before we respect division and discord, and there is a way to do both bc “both” are “One”
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Like I’m not gonna be able to stop thinking abt that one for awhile Ben that’s actually very good, and I genuinely believe the only way I’ll ever get anywhere is to condense all of your view points, praise, and condemn them, and then I can see every point of Satan Lord Father and Mother and therefore maybe be the Sun/Sum?
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