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The Tallest Cross

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The tallest cross in the world is in Spain.
Erected on a mountaintop 8 miles north of the monastery of El Escorial, the massive cement cross soars a
bewildering 5 hundred feet in the air above a barren valley, with a span of 150 feet, where it can be seen from more than 100 miles away.
The rocky gorge beneath the cross-aptly named the Valley of the Fallen-is the final resting place of more than
40 thousand souls, victims of both sides of the bloody Spanish War.

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While the location I spectacular, this is one of the most sinister places known. The Valley of the Fallen was begun
in the 1940s in the orders of General Franco, supposedly to commemorate those who died in the Spanish Civil War
(1936-1939).

After the war ended, Republican prisoners, many of whom died in the process, were drafted in to dig the site out
of the Rocky mountainside.
Completed nearly 2 decades later in 1958, the basilica contains an enormous crypt that houses the tombs of
General Franco and Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera, the founder of the far-right Falangist party.

More than 30,000 soldiers, both Nationalist and Republican, are believed to be buried in the walls of the basilica
and in the hillside around it. Campaigns have been underway for years to move Franco's tomb, exhume victims of
the war and create a museum to offer a more balanced view of the conflict, but these moves have so far been so
far been thwarted by legal obstacles.
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Re: The Tallest Cross

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A whopping big cross BeN1, I’m a Ms not Sir, just so you know.
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Re: The Tallest Cross

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Hello people.

Ek vil mæla.

Unfortunately, not only the remains of so many souls from the Valley of the Fallen remain to be exhumed. The vast majority of the sidewalks in Spain are full of these bodies, whose families today have not yet fulfilled their request to recover their loved ones.

An example of this: the number of 54,000 missing persons, this only in Andalusia.
The global figures are estimated at 140,000 missing individuals. However, they all refer to Spanish whistleblowers; we must take into account the international brigade that attended the conflict on the part of the republican side, this figure increases considerably (59,380 troops registered in this brigade).

Politics is the wall that prevents it. A democratic legacy granted by fascism to their children, all the parties that now flood the congress: PP, PSOE, Ciudadanos, Podemos, and a long etc ...

Spain has been in a cycle of oppression by state power since the minute 1 when it consolidated as a country.

A cordial greeting.

þú heyrir rðam.
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Re: The Tallest Cross

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Greetings Æsirs, welcome to the Oracle Forum community and thank you for your thoughtful post, although I must admit the Danish prefix and an Icelandic sign off confused me.

The most famous of the desaparecidos [disappeared] Spanish poet and playwright, Federico Garcia Lorca.

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In 2014, an investigation by the United Nations Working Group for Human Rights revealed that between the Spanish Civil War (1936–1939) and the end of Franco's dictatorship (1939–1975), an estimated 114,226 Spaniards "disappeared".

In a recent ranking of countries with the greatest number of disappeared, the most depressing form of research imaginable, Franco's Spain came second only to Cambodia under Pol Pot. Having spent several years in Catalunya on and off, they are not forgotten. Rajoy is exhibiting some alarming tendencies.

Any justice related to this whole unsavoury legacy was adroitly circumvented when in 1977, Spain passed an 'Amnesty Law,' ostensibly to protect its fledgling 'democracy' in the wake of four decades of military dictatorship. This somewhat dubious law prohibited individuals being put on trial for crimes committed between 1936 and 1975.

Of course, laws can always be changed, if there is a will to do so. However this 39-year silence enforced by the military dictatorship, eventually evolved or rather regressed into a collective 'el pacto del olvido' (a pact of forgetting) in Spain. In other words amnesty conveniently turned into amnesia. So much so that in international law, Spain is now acknowledged as an example of the 'Oblivion model': a memory law model based on the denial of any investigation, prosecution or reparation related to crimes committed during civil wars or other crucial historical events.

Now how can such a gargantuan stitch up float, one might say in the vernacular, demonstrating the absolute existence of a dark democracy in and amongst the cultural heritage of post-war Europe. Yet one day the perpetrator's cojones may fry at the European Courts of Human Rights and Justice, who's laws I believe supercede the laws of the member country. That is if you wish to remain a member of the EU. It is of course pretty to watch the Argentinian courts now making inroads into the Spanish right wing vow of silence, as somebody said, 'Argentina is pinching holes in the dark, closed ball of Spanish impunity.'

A woman carries her shopping past a memorial wall listing the names of Republicans who lost their lives during the Spanish Civil War at Oviedo's San Salvador cemetery [Eloy Alonso/AP]

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Well-found, Redbeck, thanks you for the welcome, and thanks to the community for sustaining this haven of debate, knowledge and inspiration.

Trying to solve your confusion, in old Nordic:

Ek vil mæla - I want to talk
Þú heyrir rðam (maðr) - You hear the namuh (human)

Continuing with an allusion to your post:

I like to see that the memory of such an artist is remembered, belonging to the great generation of 27. In Spain, in compulsory education is only "La casa de Bernarda Alba" (The House of Bernarda Alba) -1936, as a mandatory reading; I personally recommend his work "El maleficio de la Mariposa"(The Hex of the Butterfly) -1919.

An important excerpt from the latter:

LA MARIPOSA | THE BUTTERFLY
El hilo va a la estrella donde está mi tesoro. | The thread goes to the star where my treasure is.
Mis alas son de plata, | My wings are silver,
Mi corazón es de oro; | My heart is gold;
El hilo está soñando | The thread is dreaming
Con su vibrar sonoro. | Whit its vibrating sonorous.

Another sample of his work, "Autorretrato en New York" (Self-portrait in New York), Federico García Lorca, New York 1929-1931.

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