Fire Freedom Brimstone and The philosophers

[Auriorusiana]

https://youtu.be/gnodcLLEZw4

This concept can be hazardous as beneficial as most things it is a weapon, a sword

[LessThanNothing]

Yes, sadly all too few know the magic word 'NO'.

Just look at the all the people happily playing along to this covid pantomime.
How quick they are to call the police on their neighbours and publicly shame others for the sake of
empty virtue signalling, how easily they give up their rights for the illusion of safety...
Now imagine if monetary incentives were involved in ratting on one's neighbour, and the act of disobeying didn't just cause social ostracization and inconvenience, but imprisonment and possible execution.
How many would dare to speak out then? In your own country? From the people you know?
Those you see wearing masks and obeying lockdowns right now - some against their own better judgement/gut feeling, are those that will go along with whatever the 'authorities' tells them to do next.

Agreed that one has to be very careful when and how to disobey. It is always much easier to rally to
'fight against the system' than to look inside and fight one's lower self.
Raising one's consciousness, and helping others raise theirs is the way to lasting improvements and true freedom.

We are however long past the point where we should be peacefully refusing and resisting
(while peacefully is still an option - there will come a time when we will have to defend ourselves and our families by any force necessary. The longer we don't peacefully disobey, the sooner that time will come).

REFUSE, RESIST

[Auriorusiana]

Beautifully said, exactly. People think too black and white and definitely when the world is a gradient instead of sharply drawn lines.

I’m glad you mentioned the money thing, throw a little coin in the mix and people drop their morals real quick if they had any to begin with. Can’t blame them though, when the economy is literally rigged and rent is designed to keep people pay check to pay check.

I believed in being armed, most people are going to disagree with the idea of a gun here, I do agree I shouldn’t have to be ready to defend myself like that but the possibility is real and I’m not eager for it like some. This is already happening, companies are paid big bucks for censorship, taking people out is just taking it one step further, the natural course of evolution. As morbid as that is to swallow.

It’s frightening how people’s morals can be so easily skewed with a little justification and suggestion, the fact that anyone like hitler can waltz into a society and overtake it with suggestion is just proof, what’s even scarier is when most of our politicians are sucking the bottom teat of the pyramid to gain favor with higher ups, so everyone is buying and furthering the same deceit so they can eat.

And yeah I never was a huge “I hate big gov because tyranny because my daddy grounded me once, revolutions!”. I truly wish I could trust and respect my own government, but I realize now I respect long dead ideals, but I still know they will return because it is in human nature as much to Opress as to live for another.

[Auriorusiana]

https://youtu.be/oOzpncIHCLs

You don’t need a gun our voice is a sword, but this is the same idea behind nuclear proliferation, if they have a advantage we must level the playing field. From the looks of things we might not even need them once their brains turn against them and they perceive something besides their own ass and taste that suffering, but I still believe in arms.

As we’ve seen though, protests turn into riots easily, whether a cop wants to fuel his inferiority complex or someone wants to profit off robbing a store, then you have people like jake Paul who don’t know how to get their adrenal fix outside of being a leaching assfuck and Mickey mouses play thing. I mean I guess somethings gotta feed a dying soul like that.

We’re reaching a boiling point and a crossroads, many of this was planned but the issue is when you play god and push a boulder down a hill you can’t exactly control it. Their wands will turn against them.

This isn’t a giant battle yet it is, against ourselves and people who willfully chose these things beyond the word sin. I practice healing work as equal as the nasty opposite. For if you turned the cheek over and over and over, you will be beaten into the ground, because some bullies don’t get bored. I pity them however, it’s almost as if physical, mental, and societal suffering pales in comparison to the infinite karmic debt you can stack up.

I’ve experienced real condensed karma, made to feel exactly what I made another feel when I was apathetic and looked away. And that was just a small incident in comparison. No wonder soon they’ll be throwing all their money in the street, weeping for months and years, mass suicides, to make that stop. I find it hilarious these men will be shown a scrap of the power of god, take it and run with it, and then somehow justify and deny to themselves when god won’t give them the money to buy a Bentley.

The pyramid they built will be flipped to prove the fruitlessness of hierarchy, however, a different sort of leaders will still come to light the way, they will be treated as such, even we who have learned some of the ways will be considered high as those with money as they will ask us to teach and guide. So it’s not really a hierarchy we just chose this system so now we must prove it pointless when the homeless man in the streets becomes the leader of thousands just with his word alone

[Auriorusiana]

https://youtu.be/MrcfRuI1IWA

https://youtu.be/auSnpXLhi40

[Coddiwomple]

Civil disobedience is a powerful tool to enact change, but, like any tool, it can be misused.

The most prominent misusage of it tends to come from an infantile and immature approach to a situation or a lack of understanding. There are scenarios that mandate the restriction of civil liberties for the protection of the whole, a rather pertinent example being the COVID-19 pandemic.

It's necessary for skepticism to be employed whenever you gauge a situation. However, you can be too skeptical, and then you'll fall prey to endless conspiracies -faked moon landing, flat earth, anti-vaxx, chemtrails, space denial - the whole 9 yards. Hence, I always like to employ skepticism within reason, and everyone should do the like.

In regards to the topic, my personal belief is that civil disobedience against COVID-19 restrictions is wholly misguided. The figureheads behind the movement have been discredited countless times and those who refuse to abide by safety precautions endanger others. In my country, it's largely thanks to these people and their followers that our death toll is in the hundreds of thousands. Americans' longstanding belief in the sacrosanctity of civil liberties (and to be frank the uneducated populace) has created a contingent of these people who resist even the most basic safety measures.

[LessThanNothing]

I believed in being armed, most people are going to disagree with the idea of a gun here, I do agree I shouldn’t have to be ready to defend myself like that but the possibility is real and I’m not eager for it like some.

Would i love to live in a world where guns did not exist? Yes. Do we live in such a world? No.
If you have the ability to arm yourself in such a situation, it is foolish not to do so.
As an absolutely last resort, if reasoning or de-escalation is impossible, there is nothing wrong with defending oneself and one's family from violence instigated upon you by any force necessary.

People think too black and white and definitely when the world is a gradient instead of sharply drawn lines.

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...the fact that anyone like hitler can waltz into a society and overtake it with suggestion is just proof...

As you said, we tend to think black and white.
For a lot of modern people Hitler takes the place of the Satan archetype.
One could argue that Hitler was a necessary and inevitable response to the events happening to the Germanic people around the early 20th century. Hitler became Germany in the flesh so to speak.
Carl Jung has some good insights into this, if you are interested.

This isn’t a giant battle yet it is, against ourselves and people who willfully chose these things beyond the word sin.

It is a very real spiritual battle every single human is fighting every moment of our lives,
whether we realise it or not.

I pity them however, it’s almost as if physical, mental, and societal suffering pales in comparison to the infinite karmic debt you can stack up.

No wonder soon they’ll be throwing all their money in the street, weeping for months and years, mass suicides, to make that stop. I find it hilarious these men will be shown a scrap of the power of god, take it and run with it, and then somehow justify and deny to themselves when god won’t give them the money to buy a Bentley.

Ever notice how much they push for anti-aging and life-prolonging technology?
The ones who play God know what is coming to them once they leave this realm, and they would
rather live in the material world forever, delaying the inevitable as long as they can.
"Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven" is the motto.
And have no doubt, the ones who dance to their tune knowingly, and those that physically bring about their agenda through their actions will pay no less than their masters.

The pyramid they built will be flipped to prove the fruitlessness of hierarchy, however, a different sort of leaders will still come to light the way, they will be treated as such, even we who have learned some of the ways will be considered high as those with money as they will ask us to teach and guide. So it’s not really a hierarchy we just chose this system so now we must prove it pointless when the homeless man in the streets becomes the leader of thousands just with his word alone

Careful. Hierarchy is an inescapable and necessary pattern of reality.
From the hierarchy of microscopic cells, to our own individual values as humans, the family unit, each community, country, up to Heaven and GOD - all is a fractal hierarchy.

The bolsheviks leading the Russian revolution rejected hierarchy... and we see the result of this kind of thinking to the present day.
Perhaps our current situation is an inverted, distorted hierarchy. So what we must (try) to do is to flip this hierarchy back into its proper place - on all levels that we have control over.

[Auriorusiana]

The most prominent misusage of it tends to come from an infantile and immature approach to a situation or a lack of understanding. There are scenarios that mandate the restriction of civil liberties for the protection of the whole, a rather pertinent example being the COVID-19 pandemic.

It's necessary for skepticism to be employed whenever you gauge a situation. However, you can be too skeptical, and then you'll fall prey to endless conspiracies -faked moon landing, flat earth, anti-vaxx, chemtrails, space denial - the whole 9 yards. Hence, I always like to employ skepticism within reason, and everyone should do the like.

In regards to the topic, my personal belief is that civil disobedience against COVID-19 restrictions is wholly misguided. The figureheads behind the movement have been discredited countless times and those who refuse to abide by safety precautions endanger others. In my country, it's largely thanks to these people and their followers that our death toll is in the hundreds of thousands. Americans' longstanding belief in the sacrosanctity of civil liberties (and to be frank the uneducated populace) has created a contingent of these people who resist even the most basic safety measures.

I agree with you people not taking measures for the sake of “freedom” and misguided skepticism has been just as much of a plague as the disease. They will claim to want liberty for everyone and equality but not take measures to make sure another won’t get sick. Fickle empathy.

[Auriorusiana]

Careful. Hierarchy is an inescapable and necessary pattern of reality.
From the hierarchy of microscopic cells, to our own individual values as humans, the family unit, each community, country, up to Heaven and GOD - all is a fractal hierarchy.

The bolsheviks leading the Russian revolution rejected hierarchy... and we see the result of this kind of thinking to the present day.
Perhaps our current situation is an inverted, distorted hierarchy. So what we must (try) to do is to flip this hierarchy back into its proper place - on all levels that we have control over.
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I agree with things will always fall into a certain hierarchy, a parent is a parent because it came before the child. But that parent usually also acknowledges were it came from unlike how you’d see super rich families playing monopoly with faux prestige. They don’t acknowledge the “salt of the earth” as necessary nor rarely do they think they are capable of reaching that “level”.
A huge resistance to hierarchy lead to Marxism that’s a good point, if all was mediated to be exactly equal all the time I think I would kill myself right there, or die of boredom. Not that I constantly need a goal to keep me going often I have no idea what motivates me at times, truly I believe it to be family friends and love like all of us, but it just sounds like the sorts stagnation the god emperor Leto talks about in dune. Fractals is a perfect word for it you guys do this better than me I have the ideas laying them down is harder but I enjoy the work and I consider that more masonry than these “masons”.
I’m not making a generalization about all wealthy families, I’ve deliberated on this deeply, we all have our chains and we are all limited my empiricism usually, I don’t dislike someone because they’re rich I dislike unnecessary pretentiousness but I’m guilty of it too as I thought myself different for having these thoughts when one day I know all will.
And yes it all starts with us, it’s like an incredibly complex and real game of go or mahjong, meanwhile you find masons still thinking like it’s chess. But truly those who can only view life as a game are the pawns of all pawns. I’ve enjoyed this a lot thank you

[Auriorusiana]

What I find truly disgusting is that the devils spreading some original lies, like keeping up the farce most politics is real, realize how fucked and turned around one gets when faced with lies, so they’ll seed ridiculous ones just to test how far they can reach. Whether you see this as a stumbling block or filter is up to you, but we can all agree some purposeful shit is a disgusting game seeded by those with silver tongues and serpent wisdom and unfortunately probably know no better life, so we should pity them in the end.
And back to the anti aging tech and pursuit of immortality. I see nothing wrong with advancement and ways to NATURALLY and ACTUALLY promote health and longevity, as most of those tools lie before us in prayer and nature. However people want this and they want it fast and they want it now, willing to cut any corners necessary, and just like a friend of mine pointed out awhile back sorta like the myth of Talos. I am all about crafting and tuning the creation as we see it as that is what we’re invited to do, but yeah they do delay a natural death for they know what is to come atleast an image of it.
For example they literally resort to cannibalism, an old and ill fated idea that parallels Kronos, and death only exists in time, that is if you don’t considered a restructuring of ideals and morals to also be a death but that’s another rant. Ironically this literally causes mad cow disease in the brain and that’s exactly what they are to real gods and deities and to GOD sad misguided “children” if you could even consider them that, what’s even more ironic they’ll go and call the public goyim and cattle while being blind to their own bullshit, cow pun intended.
And just to spite the world they’ll wrangle in more on an either ill fated pursuit of power or those just naive to horizons of these matters and energies, convince them this is the way, and send them on their way to get more. Not unlike a virus or self replicating technology.
I wonder how their daily lives play out, playing with millions and billions that could be used to build sustainable communities with farms, terraform depleting coasts, if these thoughts even cross their minds or if the genius’ willfully ignore. I don’t see anything wrong with the concept of economy, definitely not required, but how it’s been handled is sick. Inflating deliberately designed, rent designed to be exactly minimum wage, to keep one paycheck to paycheck, that is truly eating your own children. Yet they still will think they’re free and we are cattle just because they can’t see what moves them like pawns. We are all apart and moved by the same higher forces in the bigger scheme but you see what I mean I hope

[Auriorusiana]

I don’t believe biting the apple was what was wrong but how it was approached, truly we can only understand fragments of the whole all and we are always in the all and apart, but god invites us to understand and wants us to. Most popular nowadays you’ll see them calling themselves as the Greek gods, which as the stories tell as watered down as they might get were as petty as men at times, ive even compared myself to the myths so I could figure out what I identified with and even held the possibility if this be the reason I’m different. Ill fated ideas. Even as a “god” I wouldn’t reign I’d walk with my people that’s what made Christ king, but as shown easier said than done, I could definitely see myself getting so fed up that I seclude myself in isolation from the world which is probably just another form of putting yourself on a pedestal. I’m not disconnected from the world and why would I want to push myself farther than I already have, it’s necessary to step back and away for reflection I saw that as big part of my hermit phase, but the whole point of that phase is that one eventually will come back into the world.
Very few things will compare to the look on the world leaders faces when the poorest men perform things beyond their saturnian imagination, just as discussed, to shift the focus of the hierarchy of the whole to prove we are leaves on the branches of branches of a BRANCH, grapes on the vines of grapes of grapevines of the great GRAPE.
I still don’t understand, how the societies who have access to all this knowledge, either can’t or choose to build their pedestals on the sand, knowing very well they are not the top of the “food chain”. Ego Ego, E go

[Auriorusiana]

Also I’m gonna take some notes from how you guys condense this better, ive crystallized some knowledge but I hate using so many words especially when they’re so basic. I guess it’s the fate of being part rabbit. But hey I enjoy learning to be a modern shaman. I don’t need it to keep my “self” secure in the world with purpose I create new ones everyday, but it’s the best way to transit ideas to the general public and friends when we wanna talk about it

[Auriorusiana]

I’d love to hear Jungs insights on that. Unknowingly did a few steps his ideas entails, so when I found him, felt like revelation.
He was a true Logos, to the point of prophecy, but also acknowledged the Spirit, something very hard for a logical mind usually as we search for empirical evidence. Which thankfully I was able to receive very young.
However it can really take the fun out of your younger years if you don’t let go sometimes, I feel like an old man and I haven’t even been incarnated previously in the traditional sense

[LessThanNothing]

I’d love to hear Jungs insights on that. Unknowingly did a few steps his ideas entails, so when I found him, felt like revelation.
He was a true Logos, to the point of prophecy, but also acknowledged the Spirit, something very hard for a logical mind usually as we search for empirical evidence.

A true alchemist indeed.

On an Essay Jung wrote titled 'Wotan'
http://www.philosopher.eu/others-writin ... -c-g-jung/

"The Wild Hunt" painting by Franz von Stuck, painted in 1889...